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Updated: 05/11/02

Dr. Drill Answers Your Questions

"Color Guard Confusion"

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You can submit your questions to Dr. Drill via e-mail to : DrDrill@Cadetstuff.org.

Dr Drill answers two questions this time around..

"Shoulder to Shoulder or Close Interval?"

Dr. Drill,

I have a problem, I am the Commander of the [wing name deleted] Wing Color Guard and I was told that the position of Attention while in ranks as a color guard was shoulder to shoulder. We have won wing for 5 years and this is the first time that it has been brought to our attention. Which is the correct way: Shoulder to Shoulder or Close Interval when you are in a color guard?

XX Wing Color Guard Commander

Dr. Drill Responds

Although there is better definition of the National Cadet Competition's Color Guard Competition now than there was in years past, this is still a somewhat iffy area.  There are regs, and then, often, there are "the way things are done."  At the National competition about 18 months ago, the judges were experts from the AF Honor Guard.  They really knew what they were doing!  It was Dr. Drill's impression, however, that the judges used criteria of their own rather than the criteria established by Civil Air Patrol in the references described below.  Dr. Drill suggests following the dictates of the manuals and "rules of engagement" provided by National HQ unless you happen to personally know the judges and can get them to tell you what they're really looking for.  (And if you can get it from the judges mouth, please inform Dr. Drill of what they say!)

The information that you're looking for is provided by CAP National HQ on the National Cadet Competition web page: http://www.capnhq.gov/nhq/cp/cpc/ncc/nccindex.htm

As you'll see, there are five documents that you need to get your hands on to be up-to-date on the rules for the National Cadet Competition.  These are:

  • Rules of Engagement #3 (apparently not yet released)

  • Rules of Engagement #2 (Dec 98)

  • Rules of Engagement #1 (Sep 98)

  • CAPM 50-16, Chapters 16 & 17 (yes, the old outdated one; not 52-16!)

  • AFMAN 36-2203

Links to these documents are provided at the NCC web page listed above.  As described on that page, the priority order above is to be used to resolve any conflicts between the listed publications.

So, to answer your question...  There appears to be no reference to the position of Attention while in ranks as a Color Guard in any of the first four publications (i.e. National HQ has not tried to override the Air Force on this issue) so we refer to AFMAN 36-2203, section 7.32.2:

"With the flagbearers in the center, the color guard is formed and marched in one rank at close interval..."

Although many Color Guards are taught to be shoulder-to-shoulder (and in fact, that "may" be what the judges at the National level expect), that ain't what the book says.  The correct interval is "at close interval."

Dr. Drill


"Those who can, do. Those who can't, teach!"

Dr. Drill,

I am trying to establish a color guard in my squadron, and I am in charge of teaching it. The only problem is I can't teach something that I or anyone else in the squadron doesn't know. Is there some kind of instructional video, or someone in one of the local military units that might be able to help me?

C/Maj. Lee Confused

Dr. Drill Responds

This is, of course, a serious problem: how to teach that which you don't know. You could, of course, use the references I provided in the response to the previous letter, read through the various manuals, and attempt to learn it on your own. It can be done, although it is difficult to learn that way.

National HQ has a video (which was in short -- or non-existent -- supply at NCC 18 months ago) which Dr. Drill did not find to do a very impressive job of teaching Color Guard. NHQ was supposedly working on a better one...??? Dr. Drill has never seen a good instructional Color Guard video, but good video tapes are available of the Marine Corps Color Guard. You can find a couple of Marine Corps Color Guard videos at http://www.grunt.com/videos.asp.

Also, many teams which have competed at NCC have taken video.  You might try to get your hands on one of those.

The best way to learn Color Guard, of course, is to find someone who knows it and can teach it to you.  Be sure, however, to show the references listed in the previous letter to anyone who will be teaching you, as things have changed over the past many years, the procedures differ amongst the various branches of the military, and Civil Air Patrol rules for the Color Guard Competition differ somewhat from even the way the AF does it.

Best of luck!

Dr. Drill.

Caution: Dr. Drill isn't always one hundred percent serious. Please activate your Joke Detectors. And don't call us when you find yourself explaining to a membership termination board why you used a staple gun to keep a cadet's hands at his sides during "To The Rear, March". All we're going to say on your behalf is "Duh!"

Dr. Drill welcomes comments and corrections.  Nothing herein is to be construed as the policy of Civil Air Patrol unless quoted from an up-to-date Civil Air Patrol regulation.  Even then, it may not be the policy of Civil Air Patrol. ALWAYS CHECK WITH YOUR CHAIN OF COMMAND!